Re: [orca-list] Dear God, I hope this isn't true!

[Nolan Darilek <nolan thewordnerd info>]

Yes, it is censorship. I'm on this list because I'm curious about Orca
and its continued developments. If we don't censor the Orca list to
discussions about Orca, the woodworking list to discussions about
woodworking, the web RTC list to discussions about web RTC...then what's
the point of any of those lists? This "I'm going to pee in the pool
because it really shouldn't matter to you anyway, and you have the
freedom not to swim in the pool after I've peed in it" argument has
never made any sense to me. If you want the freedom to use any old list
to discuss any old topic, and can't be bothered to use any of the many
other internet forums where such discussions *are* on-topic, then where
am I expected to go if I'd rather discuss Orca and read more messages
than I delete?



On 06/04/2018 12:26 PM, Jace Kattalakis wrote:
> As long as the discussion stays civil I don't see a reason why it
> should be banned from being discussed here though, I have my own
> issues and if anything saying X Y or Z is not allowed is blatant
> censorship. If the discussion gets out of hand, sure, but if it
> remains civil, I have zero issues discussing it. Besides, nobody is
> forcing you to read every single mail thread, right? You can just skip
> over the ones you don't feel like taking part in. For instance, I have
> the Firefox buttons ones in my inbox, but I'm skipping over those to
> get to actual imporant emails. There's no rule stating you absolutely
> have to read and/or comment on every single thing on the list.
>
> TL:DR Don't like it? Skip over it and delete the email, or just ignore
> said email altogether
>
>
> On 04/06/18 16:51, Nolan Darilek wrote:
> > Or Orca, for that matter. Can we please declare it off-topic and end the
> > discussion on the Orca list? There are massive doomsday threads on
> > Hacker News and bunches of other sites if you'd like to discuss the
> > gitpocalypse. Orca is not, nor has ever been officially hosted on
> > GitHub.
> >
> >
> > On 06/04/2018 10:45 AM, Will Estes wrote:
> > > No.
> > >
> > > It has nothing to do with linux accessibility.
> > >
> > > On Monday,  4 June 2018,  5:39 pm +0200, Vojtěch šmiro
> > > <vsmiro seznam cz> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello. Is it very bad news? Means it end of accessibility of linux
> > > > systems?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Vojta.
> > > >
> > > > José Vilmar Estácio de Souza napsal(a):
> > > > > Hi.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless I am wrong, gnome projects including orca are hosted at
> > > > > gitlab, not
> > > > > github.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I also read that github was acquired by MS$.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 06/04/2018 10:28 AM, Christopher Gilland wrote:
> > > > > > So, I just heard from a very reliable source in the blind
> > > > > > community who
> > > > > > actually directly works for the Microsoft Accessibility team, that
> > > > > > github is being acquired by Microsoft. Please tell me this is a
> > > > > > joke!
> > > > > > What will that do for devs like Joni etc. who need a centralized
> > > > > > place
> > > > > > to host their source code for things like Orca? Will we be much
> > > > > > effected, or is it to early on at this point to really know.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Chris.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > > Orca wiki:https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > > Orca documentation:https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > > GNOME Universal Access
> > > > > > guide:https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > > Log bugs and feature requests athttp://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Assinatura Informal José Vilmar, Telefones: 21 2555-2650 e 21
> > > > > 98868-0859,
> > > > > Skype: jvilmar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > orca-list mailing list
> > > > orca-list gnome org
> > > > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > > > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > > > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > > > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > > > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > > > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> > Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> > GNOME Universal Access guide:
> > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> orca-list mailing list
> orca-list gnome org
> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca
> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/
> GNOME Universal Access guide:
> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org