Re: [orca-list] Could it be possible to reduce chattiness when opening the desktop ?

[Andy Borka <sonfire11 gmail com>]

Hi,


I agree. Pressing CONTROL+ALT+D results in Orca saying the following:


"desktop frame icon view layered pane, andy's home, 1 of 5"


Which could be shortened to something like:

"desktop. Icon view. Andy's home 1 of 5"

Thunderbird email has the same problem. A new email has Orca saying 
something like:

"Write, editable content. Focus mode."

This could be shortened. However, each user's preference for screen 
reader verbiage might be different. Thus, the control type, control 
state, and the state of Orca in each control should be a user setting in 
the Orca preferences. This way, someone who doesn't care that the 
desktop is an icon view with multiple layers can turn it off and only 
have to hear "Desktop. Andy's home, 1 of 5." Someone creating a new 
email only needs to here "write. Edit, blank." Something similar to 
JAWS/NVDA in Windows would work. In any case, these should be 
configurable. I do believe the user should also have control over which 
order these options are announced.


On 05/16/2018 10:10 AM, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> Environment:
> - Debian Sid
> - Orca master
> - Mate 1.20.1 (it's the same with olders releases, even if with GTK2)
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1) Open an application
> 2) Go to the desktop with ctrl+alt+d
>
> Result: Orca announces "desktop frame icon view layered pane"
>
> Result on Windows with NVDA: "desktop list"
>
> My proposal: Orca could announce "desktop" because the desktop implies 
> to be in icon view without the "layered pane" information that is 
> technically correct but I don't think it is useful to have it.
>
> The reason why I ask you that is because all our users ask us why the 
> announce is so complicated to indicate we're on the desktop? This 
> behavior let them think Mate and Linux is complicated.
>
> Best regards.