Re: [orca-list] Option to turn off auto-focus mode for native navigation (was Re: Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox)
- From: Ishe Chinyoka <chinyoka consultant gmail com>
- To: Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com>
- Cc: Rastislav Kish <rastislav kish gmail com>, orca-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Option to turn off auto-focus mode for native navigation (was Re: Tips and tricks for Orca and Firefox)
- Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 13:03:37 +0200
Hi Joanie,
Thanks for the update. I just pulled it and I can confirm that at least
this is what I had been waiting for: the ability to turn off autofocus
in every page. The new option of "Turn Off Focus in Native" seems to
have done the trick. Thanks.
By the way, how do we access sidebar items in Firefox? That seems to
elude me: I would like to access my tweets that are posted in the
Twitter add-on in Firefox.
Regards,
Ishe
On Wednesday, 19 August 2020, at 12:26, Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:
Hey Rastislav and all.
Comments inline below.
On Sat, 2020-08-15 at 16:48 +0200, Rastislav Kish via orca-list wrote:
As for the disabling of autofocus, I would like to disable this
functionality completely, so Orca doesn't switch between modes under
any
circumstances, even after page load or refresh.
"Any circumstances" is hard. But I just added a new option to Orca
master which will attempts to do this for "native" navigation which
right now means "anything which is not caret navigation or structural
navigation" (so Tab, page load, etc.). Hopefully it will make things
better.
The problem with
automatic focusing is, that it's quite unpredictable, in all
screenreaders. On some sites it works, on some not, and because many
times I don't even want to write anything, I often find myself in
fight
with switching of modes before I'm able to do what I want. As I
said,
this is not just problem of Orca, but also Jaws, NVDA and other
screenreaders, that's the reason why I usually turn auto focusing
completely off.
For those instances where Orca does something unpredictable it would be
helpful to know. It could be the browser and/or author doing something
bad. Then again, it could be an Orca bug. Then again, it could be an
Orca feature that is not working the way you want. If the issue is on
the side of Orca, and we all agree what the desired behavior is, I can
of course fix/change Orca -- as long as I know about the issue and can
experience it myself. :)
Thanks for the answers and feedback, and please let me know how the new
feature works for you.
--joanie
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