Re: [orca-list] Announcement of newline when navigating by word (was Re: Reworked presentation of native word navigation)

[Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1 gmail com>]

I do believe the behavior should be changed, as it does slow navigating down when I have to hear new line at the beginning of a word. Thanks.

On Tue, Nov 3, 2020, 01:31 Joanmarie Diggs <jdiggs igalia com> wrote:

Hi Rastislav, all.

Presenting hard carriage returns when crossed during word navigation is
a long-standing Orca feature. Maybe one which shouldn't have been
added, but I'm hesitant to change it without additional feedback from
the community.

Note that this only happens when Enter/Return was pressed to force a
newline; it shouldn't happen if the text wrapped automatically.

Anyhoo, what do others think?

Thanks for testing, and the feedback!
--joanie

On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 16:43 +0000, Rastislav Kish via orca-list wrote:
> Hello Joanie,
>
> I have just pulled the master and tested the changes. It works
> really
> great, although I'll probably never understand why does Linux treat
> punctuation as words, but when it already does so, reading it is the
> correct behavior imo.
>
>
> Thanks for this change. There is just one thing I would like to add.
> If
> there are two lines, and the secondone begins with a word, when
> navigating by words, blank line is spoken first on that place when
> crossing from the first line and just after that, the word is
> announced.
>
> Could be possibly something done about this? When I'm reading a text
> by
> words, it slows down the reading, as I either have to listen to the
> whole phrase, or pass it and return from another side to hear the
> word.
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> Best regards
>
>
> Rastislav
>
>
> Dňa 29. 10. 2020 o 17:16 Joanmarie Diggs napísal(a):
> > Hey all.
> >
> > I just landed a change in Orca master which is designed to improve
> > what
> > Orca says when you use native app navigation by word. In other
> > words,
> > when you press Ctrl+Left/Right *and* Orca is not controlling the
> > caret.
> > So that means Gedit/Pluma, Firefox and Chromium in focus mode, etc.
> > The
> > changes should not impact browse mode nor LibreOffice.
> >
> > The problem I was/am trying to address is what happens when you're
> > navigating by word around punctuation and other symbols. In those
> > instances, where the app moves you when you press Ctrl+Left/Right
> > doesn't match what ATK/AT-SPI2 reports for the word at your new
> > location. This mismatch can cause Orca to repeat some parts of the
> > "word" or not speak other parts. Hopefully that's better now in
> > Orca
> > master.
> >
> > Please give it a spin and let me know what you think.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > --joanie
> >
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