Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
From: Andrea Veri <av gnome org>
To: Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk>
Cc: Orca-list <ORCA-LIST gnome org>
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2022 15:45:47 +0200
Peter,
Thank you for the quick recap, really appreciate it, I went ahead and created the Accessibility sub-category for you under Community. I also enabled the mail interface against accessibility discourse gnome org. At the end of October I'll switch orca-list to point to accessibility discourse gnome org and your workflow will remain the same, you will just have to update filters on your mail client.
Let me know if that'd do it for you, thanks!
On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 3:02 PM Peter Vágner <pvagner pvagner tk> wrote:
Hello Andrea,
I am also sending copy of this message to orca list. And I see it as
a recap of what has been discussed so far.
Discourse is very accessible platform when it comes to using it with
a screen reader running. Majority of orca list members are visualy
disabled peope who might be able to make some good use of it as a
traditional email list replacement.
However we had a discussion on this about a month ago at
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2022-September/msg00020.html
and here are notable key points we are seeing when trying to use the
discourse as an email list replacement.
* There are instructions for those who like to use discourse as an
email lists:
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46/2
* It even allows creating new topics through email within selected
categories.
* Here is a discussion about the mailing list mode too:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-mailing-list-mode/46008/8
* You can configure it in your preferences. For example I've
registered to the gnome discourse with the username pvagner and here
is link to my email preferences:
https://discourse.gnome.org/u/pvagner/preferences/emails . Of course
yours will be different. If this is turned on reportedly all the
discourse instance messages are relayed to your mailbox as a
traditional email list.
* Also there is a feature which will send out summaries of popular
topics if you are not active on the web interface of discourse. This
can be turned off within the email settings of your discourse
account too.
* Independent of this mailing list mode, there is also ability to
track or watch topics or watch first post of a topic.
* There is ability to watch tags or categories. Here is a discussion
about these discourse features:
https://meta.discourse.org/t/actual-difference-between-tracked-and-watching-first-post/61036
* Just a note on tracking vs watching. Tracking is web UI only and
watching includes email notifications. Watching notifies about each
post watching first post only notifies about initial post in a
topic.
* Closest to our topics are the tags a11y and accessibility. Are
these meant for the same thing or is one prefered over the other?
* Consuming discourse through email is working and possible. What I
am not sure about is where and how to post discussions we are having
here in this list to the discourse. Where does it belong? Is it an
applications category? What tags to apply? Shal we use tag
accessibility, a11y or something else?
* There is no way to create post by email and tag it with a specific
tag like a11y or accessibility. Given the fact orca users prefer
email discussions wouldn't it be good to recommend a category so new
discourse users can post their messages by email to? Apparently gimp
users have the same query.
Thanks for reading this. Can you please help us to clear some of
these things please?
Hopefully we will be able to keep this community of screen reader
users together on a new platform.
Thanks and greetings
Peter
Dňa 20. 10. 2022 o 13:09 Andrea Veri
napísal(a):
Hi,
As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's
Mailman platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation,
major burden in managing lists spam). The deadline is currently
set to the end of October 2022. Mailing list subscribers are
invited to migrate to GNOME's Discourse instance [1]. Neil made
sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to initiate a
new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach
out to me directly.
Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some
instructions you can follow [3] in order to safely migrate
your reading workflow to Discourse. The new platform supports
several login methods including your GNOME Account and other
major OpenID providers.
After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives
will remain alive in read only mode for posterity. If the
mailing list was used behind an alias, please let me know so
we can re-do the same setup but on Discourse instead.
Thanks,
P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in
damned-lies, the deadline to decommission those lists may slip
by a week or two depending how soon those changes will be made
available in DL codebase
