Re: [Planner Dev] Planner enhancement - use resource patch against CVS 011 20040316.

["lincoln phipps openmutual net" <lincoln phipps openmutual net>]

Richard Hult wrote:

> tor 2004-03-18 klockan 11.55 skrev lincoln phipps openmutual net:
>
> > Richard Hult wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > tis 2004-03-16 klockan 23.28 skrev lincoln phipps openmutual net:
> > >
> > >
> > > > Attached is the use resource patch. It adds a nice little
> > > > button plus menu actions and right-mouse task of Use Resource.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe we should call it "Assign resources"?
> >
> >
> > I thought about this and ended up with the verb "Use", though
> > Assign is equally meaningful its a longer word :)
>
>
> Might be better. Any comments from the rest of the crew? :) We can
> always change it later, I guess.

I'll go with the majority. I just didn't want the single word
resource so I needed a easy to remember verb so I gave it the
easy-to-grep string of "use_resource"

> > > > This simply pops up a dialog that simply has the resources
> > > > on it.
> > > >
> > > > Where it helps is when you ctrl/shift-click multiple tasks.
> > > > Then it opens up one dialog per task in quick succession
> > > > (dialogs layered on top of each other).
> > >
> > > Maybe we should make it popup no more than say 5 or 10 of those at a
> > > time? Just to prevent a mistake where you accidentally select all and
> > > choose this feature...
> >
> > Not 5 or 10 but lots !. I've actually used it on my current 100 task
> > project, selected all tasks and gone through each tweaking the
> > resources -> close dialog, tweak resource -> close dialog etc etc.
> > In the past this would have taken a lot of time ! It doesn't seem to
> > cause any problems i.e. it doesn't hang or crash if you select
> > all and -> Use Resource so I'd like to leave it as it is.
>
>
> Well, I'd rather put some limit even if it's 20, and maybe a popup
> saying that it was limited. If you have 1000 tasks and accidentally get
> 1000 windows up, I'm sure the window manager and X will get in trouble.
> I'm not even sure you can have that many toplevel windows in X, iirc
> there's some limit.

OK this is a fairly easy change in task_view_update_ui() and
gantt_view_update_ui() to test for count_value > some arbitary limit
and then make the button/menu inactive. This'll be an easy
change.  Someone will know its stopped working when the button goes
inactive. We don't need a warning dialog at this time.

OK, maybe just 20 tasks it is. It should be some multiple of 10.

> > > I was thinking, what do you think about making the menu/button popup the
> > > task dialog with the resources page active instead of using a separate
> > > dialog?
> >
> > Though it seems like adding extra code it was really to make it a
> > clean presentation to tweak resources so I really wanted it to
> > popup this 1 very focused dialog to help satisfy the project managers
> > responsibility of updating resource allocations.  Once a set of
> > project tasks is decided then the next step in project management
> > is the initial allocation of resources and then refactoring
> > these resource allocations.
> >
> > The dialog is just showing the relationship between the tasks and
> > the resources and therefore shouldn't show the whole task (nor the
> > whole resource), only the things that affect the two.
>
>
> Well I was just thinking that there would be one way to do resource
> assignment instead of two => less confusion for users, less code to
> maintain, less UI to get consistent.
>
> Since the resource tab would be selected, it would look mostly the same
> as your suggestion, plus it would be exactly the same code and
> look-n-feel as when dealing with it elsewhere.

I'm sort of starting to agree - err -how do I message a dialog
to bring the Resources tab into focus when its opened ?.

If you want I can redo this based on your feedback.

> /Richard

Rgds,
Lincoln.

ps: Task Priority patch finished. Testing OK. will add priority
to schema along with the new deadline date so schema changes are
at a minimum.