Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] Yet another user interface proposal



I'm not sure if i love the shot or hate it, but i modified it to add
songs and albums and stuff to make it easier to muse over:

http://evolvedoo.sf.net/crackhack.png


On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 19:15, Jorn Baayen wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> The code in the old rb indeed causes a *lot* of code dup, and it is a
> mess - and very hard to change and fix bugs. So starting with code base
> reasons I'd not want to continue with it, and also I installed walters'
> tarball today and.. I am quite shocked really how crappy the old UI is.
> Buttons that change between pause/play and stop, same buttons behaves
> very differently depending on the situations, playing view unclarity,
> etc.
> 
> At least I will not work on that any longer, sorry.. I really feel it a
> waste of time.
> 
> I had a new ui idea though, based on the glade file Luca sent.. I guess
> I'm on crack, but I'm posting it anyway:
> http://nl.linux.org/~jorn/Files/crackhack.png
> The idea is that you have the main window with a playlist (playlist
> loading/saving happens via the menus), and you can add whole albums to
> it via the '+' button. I added an arrow next to it, so that you can also
> chose an 'add song' button to add single songs. As you can see, it's
> pretty much entirely different from what we have now. I haven't thought
> to iradio yet, though...
> I guess this design would work very well for me, since I mostly play
> whole albums, and occasionally I want to listen to a single song. Now I
> can just click '+', type the name of the album i want, hit return and
> i'm playing it. But I'm not so sure this design will work very well for
> single-song people..
> 
> This design is also, in a sense, similar to xmms: in xmms, at least that
> is what i did, i have all of my music loaded. When i want to play
> something i press 'j', gives me the jump to dialog, and i type the name
> of the album or song I want. So very much like this one, except that
> instead of jumping you add stuff to the playlist here: which gives us
> the queuing we want.
> 
> Cheers
> Jorn
> 
> On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 12:01, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 20:41, Colin Walters wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2003-02-02 at 06:41, Marco Pesenti Gritti wrote:
> > > 
> > > First, thanks for working on this. 
> > > 
> > > > SIDEBAR
> > > > 
> > > > The sidebar acts like a source selector and no more like a view
> > > > switcher. No more menu merging, the only piece of ui that could change a
> > > > bit when changing source are filters.
> > > > This is mostly a code change, since the views was pretty consistent (or
> > > > was planned to be), but I think it will have positive effects in the
> > > > future, forcing us to not evolve in one of these terrible all in one,
> > > > viewed applications.
> > > 
> > > The toplevel information display will have to change too.  For example,
> > > internet radio stations don't have artist/album information, and they do
> > > have web links (which local files generally don't).
> > > 
> > > But in general I think I agree with you.
> > > 
> > > One other issue; not only will what filters are active have to change
> > > when switching sources, but their layout will too.  For iradio there is
> > > really only one filter which makes sense, in particular genre.  And
> > > putting one enormous filter on the top takes up too much room.  I have
> > > it laid out on the side:
> > > 
> > > http://web.verbum.org/~walters/files/shots/39.html
> > 
> > These was changes that was necessary also with the new design I think.
> > 
> > >From a user interface design perspective I'm trying to make the point
> > that changes should be kept minimal, and that we should have a source
> > switcher (the way how you get the songs changes but the way you interact
> > with them is kept more similar is possible), instead of a view switcher
> > (everything change, more like different applications embedded in one,
> > see evolution).
> > 
> > Also, but I dont care that much about this, I was under the impression
> > that the views separation was giving some problems of code duplication.
> > But I'm sure jorn knows a lot more than me about this ;)
> > 
> > Jorn, what do you think finally ? ;) Can we start making incremental
> > improvements over the old design or should we wait you find the perfect
> > design ?
> > Personally I respect any decision you take, and I hope everyone will do
> > the same. It's silly to fork, since we have all the same targets.
> > 
> > Marco
> > 
> > 
> > 
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