Re: [Usability] useless message threading in Evolution



On Wed, 2007-02-28 at 08:30 -0500, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> Recent versions of evolution sort threads by the most recent reply. The
> date for the toplevel message in a thread, is shown with the date of the
> latest reply as well, in the event the thread is collapsed.

Collapsing threads seems rather cumbersome, but I was delighted to see
that it does in fact work.

For the OPs interest, here's two ways I work around the problem:

1) Use '[' and ']' to jump to the next unread message in the folder
2) Use the "Hide Read Messages" action

Other than that, I think this thread is pretty off-topic for the
usability list.

mike

> I don't know about Received Date, but sorting by "Date" works fine for
> me. The feature probably isn't bug free, either, though.
> 
> -- dobey
> 
> 
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 17:47 -0600, Matthew Nuzum wrote:
> > I hope I'm not tiring people with my bug reports... please understand
> > my goal is to make systems better and to boost productivity.
> > 
> > Many cool e-mail programs have a threading feature that groups related
> > messages in chronological order. This makes it easy to see messages in
> > context.
> > 
> > Evolution has this feature, but as far as I can tell, it is crippled
> > severely because of the inability to sort message threads in a useful
> > way.
> > 
> > For example, if someone sends you a message, and you reply, then a
> > week later this person replies back, logically, the two messages they
> > sent are grouped together.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, if you've received 200 messages since then, you will
> > have to scroll down past those 200 messages to see the reply.
> > 
> > This is because when you sort your threaded display by "received date
> > (desc)" the received date of the *oldest* message in the thread is
> > used, not the newest.
> > 
> > To illustrate this better, I have a folder called "bugs" and filters
> > to put all my bug related e-mails there automatically.
> > 
> > There are over 1700 e-mails in this folder.
> > 
> > Some time ago, I got subscribed to a bug about pango. I get a couple
> > messages from this thread a month it seems. When I get a new message,
> > I have to scroll past 1500 or so e-mails to find the new one. The list
> > is so long, that I scroll relatively fast. However, scrolling fast
> > makes it incredibly easy to miss the unread message.
> > 
> > That's an exaggerated (but true) example, however this characteristic
> > of evolution hampers my e-mail reading every day.
> > 
> > I would love to see sorting of threads use the received date of the
> > newest msg in the thread rather than the oldest. This is how every
> > other MTA I have used displays messages.
> > 
> > Anyone willing to triage this and add comments?
> > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=412845
> > 
> 
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