Re: very rough pre-gep tentative new modules list

[Mark Finlay <sisob eircom net>]

Just a quick note to everyone who has an opinion on multi-media in
gnome: 

	If you want to actually have your opinion influence what 
will happen - go to the multimedia list - there is a big discussion
going on there.

MArk




On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 18:56, Luis Villa wrote:
> So, I hear Jeff's working on a 'gep' to make this more 'formal.' :) In
> the meantime, I'd like to get the ball rolling by proposing the the
> addition of the following components to the GNOME Desktop for the 2.2
> release, presuming that by the appropriate freezes they've made
> appropriate progress towards the goals and standards agreed upon in that
> other gep that Jeff is apparently drafting. :) 
> 
> In other words, this is all incredibly tentative, but we want to get
> moving on 2.2, and we believe that the following packages will move us a
> long way towards becoming a complete and modern desktop, so... here they
> are :) Note that /lots/ of discussion/argument/flaming/all of the above
> is appropriate at this point- I'm sure we've overlooked at least one app
> that has a strong argument for inclusion, and at least a couple of these
> will require big leaps of faith (or of dependent libs) to be ready for
> 2.2. Discussion about the libs, the appropriateness of the inclusions,
> and everything else, /needs/ to take place, but I believe that a
> concrete list of apps and dependencies is one of the best places to
> start this discussion from. So, without further BS-
> 
> *file roller: as many of you know, gnome-vfs and nautilus do not
> necessarily handle tarballs and other compressed/zipped objects well.
> File Roller (fileroller.sf.net) is a wonderful application for this
> purpose that we hope will help bridge the gap in this area.
> 
> *galeon: Every modern desktop system ships with a browser; we feel we
> should too, and we feel we've got the best one of all of them.
> Unfortunately, a fully embeddable gtk2 mozilla may not be ready in time
> for GNOME2.2, but the galeon team wants to work towards the 2.2 goal and
> believe it'll be good practice for 2.4 if mozilla is not ready in time
> for 2.2. 
> 
> *rhythmbox: most of you have probably heard of rhythmbox. It's another
> app that wants to ambitiously aim for a 2.2 release, with the
> understanding that the libs and the application itself may not be stable
> in time for release. Both XP and OS/X come with apps like RB- we've got
> a great one, so we should ship it if it is ready to go. Adds a gstreamer
> dependency.
> 
> *totem: again, this is an app rapidly reaching maturity that still needs
> love and would add a big dependency to the desktop. It's also something
> that we need to do to have parity with the Big Boys and become a modern,
> multi-media desktop. Would add a xine dependency, though there are hopes
> that this would go away at some point in favor of gstreamer.
>  
> *gcalctool: a more powerful gtk calculator. It is not very GNOME-ish
> ATM; otherwise it's superior to the current crop in many ways. 
> 
> *gnopernicus and gok: we believe strongly that we should continue the
> push to become a fully Accessible desktop by including the gnome
> accessibility tools, gnopernicus and gok. However, both of these apps
> have a ways to go before they are 'friendly' to non-accessible users,
> both in terms of interface and installation. Because a big part of the
> goal of having these in the main distribution is to educate 'normal'
> users, some progress on this front must be made before we can include
> them.
> 
> This is clearly an ambitious list; we expect at least one and possibly
> several of these apps won't be ready in time for 2.2. But because it is
> easy to cut them loose so that they can focus on 2.4, we don't think
> it's a problem to be ambitious and air out all the possible issues now.
> So, go ahead, flame away for dependencies, or instability, or just
> because we didn't include your favorite app. Or maybe even try to start
> a constructive discussion. :) 
> 
> Luis
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