Re: 2.4 Proposed Modules - 2 weeks left

[Andrew Sobala <aes gnome org>]

On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 18:21, Bill Haneman wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-04-30 at 17:49, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> ...
> regarding Epiphany in gnome 2.4:
> 
> > I would guess that for 2.4 there will be at least some features
> > missing (docs, perhaps; doubtless some button in Mozilla is must-have
> > to someone; unknown if accessibility will happen in time), but as long
> > as the browser is stable and usable I think it's OK to ship it,
> 
> I'd really hate to ship gnome 2.4 with gnopernicus and gok but with an
> inaccessible browser, when a browser that works with gnome accessibility
> is available from elsewhere :-/
> 
> seems to send conflicting signals.
> 
> of course it's not certain that gnopernicus will make the cut for 2.4
> yet but we+BAUM are trying and I think it's a good possibility.
> 
> I know that a desktop without a browser is not good, but we have a
> similar "works with but not part of" situation with OpenOffice ATM and
> have had the same situation with Mozilla since GNOME's infancy.  So I
> guess I'd rather wait till 2.6 to bundle a browser if we can't get the
> ATK stuff working outside of Mozilla in time for 2.4.
> 
> (my opinion, I know some will differ).
> 
> - Bill

Indeed :-)

If we have a browser team committed to getting accessibility working as
soon as the Sun's mozilla accessibility team get the atk tree exported,
I think we can ship that browser. It's not a regression, it just doesn't
work yet and there's nothing that GNOME can do to speed up the process
when we're blocking on Sun's work.

Because a) we're helpless, b) we're not regressing since it's not
replacing an existing working solution, c) it would be nice for all the
users _not_ relying on ATs and d) we are committed to getting it working
as soon as possible, I think it's reasonable to ship epiphany with GNOME
2.4. If the mozilla dependency is OK.

-- 
Andrew Sobala <aes gnome org>

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