RE: Regarding Nautilus scripts

["Mason Kidd" <Mason Kidd bea com>]

If people are downloading addons from a Freshemat like site, they aren't
going to be downloading a single .so file, it will be either a source
package or a pre-built binary.  BeOS didn't, and MacOS doesn't, have to
worry about compatibility across multiple hardware and OS platforms like
Gnome does.  

For a non-root user to install an add-on, they can create a directory
~/.gnome2/bonobo, then set BONOBO_ACTIVATION_PATH=~/.gnome2/bonobo and
drop their .server files in there.  Although, it would be nice if Bonobo
looked at a directory in the user's home directory like this anyway.

You can get my Open Terminal Here... Nautilus component from here:
http://embedweb.sf.net/term-comp-0.1.tar.gz

Do the usual ./configure && make && make install
Right click on a folder in Nautilus, and then select Open Terminal
Here...

Only 19 more to go....

Mason Kidd, CCNA
IT Customer Support Engineer II
BEA Systems, Inc.
Kirkland, WA
425-896-4194
Seattle, WA
206-926-2957
Cell 206-295-7687



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eugenia Loli-Queru [mailto:eloli hotmail com] 
> Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 5:52 PM
> To: nautilus-list gnome org; desktop-devel-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: Regarding Nautilus scripts
> 
> 
> >But I think that this functionality pretty much already exists.  You
> >drop the .server file in a special directory (/lib/bonobo/servers
> >usually), and Bonobo registers the component. It doesn't matter where
> >you put the .so file, because the .server file tells Bonobo where the
> >.so file is.  So how is this more difficult than MacOS or BeOS?
> 
> You have to  deal with 2 files instead of one. The .server file is
> completely reduntant from the user's point of view. You might 
> think "the
> user won't mess with those", but this is untrue. From the moment an
> applet/extension/addon thingie takes off (with the trick of 
> installing 4-5
> of them by default), users will fall in love with the 
> functionality. It will
> be a matter of time before Freshmeat has its own category for 
> this kind of
> apps. Like Tracker  addons have on BeBits. It is part of the game. And
> because these little apps are so user-oriented, you need to make their
> installation/uninstallation as easy as possible.
> You need to allow non-root users to install their own addons 
> too, locally.
> This /lib/bonobo/servers/ is only accessible to admins, is 
> there a way to
> install these servers as a user?? This is a must have! With 
> the single .so
> file, you just pop it either on your 
> /opt/gnome/bin/nautilus/addons/ or on
> your /home/eugenia/.gnome2/whatever/ or on your 
> ~/.nautilus-addons/ (you
> decide) and it should just work. Extension applets are... 
> commodity items,
> even if you don't believe this because it is a new thing for Nautilus.
> 
> >It seems to me that your only real complaint is the 
> cluttering up of the
> >top level Nautilus menu.  This could be easily alleviated by 
> creating a
> >submenu (Extensions or whatever), and have components' menus 
> be placed
> >in there (like your mock-up).
> 
> I would very much love this, yes.
> 
> >As an aside, in about an hours worth of work, I created a Bonobo
> >component to do the Open Terminal Here... functionality.  I've gotten
> >all the code written, just finishing up the compiling and installing.
> 
> Where is this placed? I hope not in the top level menu, and 
> if yes, I hope
> someone can take the time and create this "extension applets" 
> dir and put
> these kinds of plugins in there.
> 
> Now, you did one, great... Do the rest 20 as in the mockup 
> and I will cook
> 20 lemon pies for you. :-)  :-)
> (the first time I cooked a lemon pie for a programmer, was 
> when I asked for
> a closed source driver update for an OS I was running. He updated the
> driver, I cooked the lemon pie, we delivered it the next day 
> (he was living
> close) ;-)
> 
> Eugenia
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