Re: 2.4 Proposed Modules - 2 weeks left

["David Adam Bordoley" <bordoley msu edu>]

Marco Pesenti Gritti writes: 

> > Will distros being shipping it in time for GNOME 2.4?
>
> I dont know. Some distributions are already shipping it (Mandrake for
> example).
> The port is quite stable and with GRE it should be possible to install
> two version of gecko in parallel. 
>
> > I don't
> > think we can ship a GNOME 2.4 module that has a GTK+ 1.2 dependency.
>
> Epiphany does not work with a gtk 1.2 mozilla anyway. 
>
> > Accessibility: 
> >
> > If I understand, Bill says there are accessibility problems with epiphany
> > that do not exist with Mozilla. This is a potential blocker. Can we have
> > some more information about that please? How might it be solved eventually?
> > If it is explained elsewhere then please just give us a URL. 
>
> First step is to get the accessibility work exported to embedding widget
> (Right now it's connected only to mozilla toplevel windows). According
> to Bill Sun's Beijing Mozilla team is working on this. 
>
> Then we will have to connect the gecko ATK support into the application
> widget ATK tree.
> I hope it's possible to do it at gtkmozembed level [1], so that all gtk
> embedders (yelp, galeon ...) will be accessible without any additional
> code. (my knowledge of accessibility framework is still not great, so I
> could be wrong about this). 
>
> Marco 
>
> [1] http://mozilla.org/unix/gtk-embedding.html 

I think blocking a gnome browser because of accessibility concerns would be 
a real big mistake. For years users have been complaining about how gnome 
does not come with a default browser, now we have two fine canidates that 
are both fairly stable, and widely used. 

The accessibility work needed for gtkmozembed is much more likely to happen 
once there is more widespread use of it, since the motivation to fix it will 
be greater. Right now gnome doesn't have a web browser, so adding one that 
isn't 100% accessible is not a regression. Plus distros that are really 
concerned can still enable the deprecated mozilla as their default browser 
if they choose in the short term. Marco as a maintainer is great, and takes 
accessibility issues seriously. He's made a point of fixing many keynav 
issues that I've found in our bookmarks and history windows, and makes these 
issue high prioirity. 

dave