Re: Is it always like this?

On Mon, 2004-02-16 at 12:33 -0800, Sri Ramkrishna wrote:

> > Recently, actually the day before the "testicles" release, I subscribed 
> Hmm.  Yay, we can now called the whole thing testicle debacle/release. :-)
> > to this list.  Being an entirely uninitiated list newbie, yet a big fan 
> > of Mr. Lebowski, I wasn't shocked or awed by the title. 
> I raised one eyebrow and  I don't know Mr. Lebowski.
> > I'm what you could term " a business user/decision maker".  I joined 
> > this list, to see what the Gnome community was all about.  I just wanted 
> > to see what the people behind the scenes were like, how they thought, 
> > what went into this platform, etc.
> ooo..bad timing.  You should go back and look at the archives or read 
> planet gnome.
> > The recent messages/theme/testicle controversy really doesn't influence 
> > me one way or the other from a business perspective.  But my question 
> > is, "Is it alway like this?"  Did I just catch an out of the ordinary 
> > flame war, or is this the norm.?
> Most large open source projects have disagreements.  Sometimes they are 
> resolved amicably other times it's a flame war.  For a lot of us GNOME and 
> it's image can be emotional and we react accordingly, as anyone would when 
> building something grand and complex that people are proud of.
> This particular thread was really not about calling it testicles or other 
> such nonsense, but it's about image and what it means to different people.  
> Others do not want to see us "corporatized" and take ourselves too 
> seriously.  The flip side is that we want to be taken seriously, not like 
> a pack of juveniles who do bathroom jokes.  So thats what that whole thing 
> was about.  In the end is that we've removed titles on development 
> releases.  No longer calling them by a particular name but try to maintain 
> our culture through individual releases.  Perhaps a compromise, but it 
> does leave a bitter taste in some people's mouth.
> That is the beauty about Open Source/Free Software project, it's not about
> code while it is a big part of it, but I believe primarily it's about
> people getting together and building something wonderful.  And thats what 
> you're witnessing, passion from different perspectives.
> So yeah, it's always like this and I'm glad.  The day we stop being 
> passionate about GNOME, thats the day this project ends.  

You summed up the matter brilliantly, but you left out the fact that we
don't always talk about genitalia. (Okay, okay, so we do, but usually
not so much.)

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