On Apr 25, 2012 8:43 AM, "Allan Day" <allanpday gmail com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:55 AM, John Stowers
> <john stowers lists gmail com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> So there are lots of ways that we can do design better as a community,
> >> and contributors on this list can all play a part in helping to make
> >> us to be even more successful in this regard. It will take actions as
> >> well as words to move forward, of course - if you want to help, or
> >> have your own ideas, just get in touch.
> >
> > Many of your suggestions seem designed to address or avoid conflict, or
> > to convey design team decisions in a better manner. This is not the
> > source of my confusion nor my uncertainty in how to interact with the
> > design team.
> >
> > In order to piece together the rationale or even the process for design
> > team decisions I currently browse commit logs on the gnome-design github
> > repo, and look at comments made when changing live.gnome.org pages. Some
> > of you tweet stuff, others scatter it on google+. You suggest even using
> > $some_new_webapp to better collaborate on designs.
> >
> > While I cannot see the discussion and the evolution of design team
> > thought (even if I have the time to piece together all these sources of
> > information) all I see is a decision by decree when a live.gnome.org
> > page is created which describes the final design.
> >
> > My suggestion is thus the same as it was the last time this thread was
> > raised - if the design team does not want to archive discussions on a
> > mailing list, may they please allow IRC logging on the gnome-design
> > channel.
>
> I'm not sure how useful logging the channel will be (lots of noise,
> etc), but I'd be happy to give it a go. The main thing is that we
> shouldn't stop there. IRC logs aren't going to fix the whole gamut of
> challenges that we face in relation to community design.
>
> > You can even be proactive and send email updates to ddl or
> > something.
What about a mailing list of which only foundation members can subscribe to? I made this suggestion earlier.
Sri
>
> I've lapsed in my design update blog posts, but I've got a new one in
> the works. You think emails would be better than blogging?
>u
> > Of course if the canonical way to interact with the design is to show up
> > on IRC at a specific hour then, IMO, you will lose contributors. I can
> > hack any time of night when I have the motivation and the free time. But
> > if I want to understand why the design team did something I have to...
> > trust them?
> >
>
> Trust them, or ask them, or a combination of the two. (Trust comes
> best once you gain experience of working with people, of course.)
>
> Allan
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