Re: Mozilla 1.7 rc1 issues.

[Peter Korn <Peter Korn Sun COM>]

Hi Luke, Tom,

As you have deduced, Mozilla's present caret navigation leaves much to be 
desired.  This is being worked on.  Alas, I don't have an estimate of when it 
will get significantly better (beyond "as soon as possible").

I'd like to open a related topic: what do you (and the other Gnopernicus users 
on this alias) want in a web browsing interface?  Caret navigation is critical 
for mouseless operation (a mouseless user must be able to do anything a 
mouse-ed user can, including selecting text to copy to the clipboard), and 
good feedback from Gnopernicus to caret navigation should result in a basic 
level of blind/low-vision accessibility (especially if you include the usual 
Ctrl-arrow, home/end stuff).

Now, is that sufficient?

Sufficient or not, what would you add if you could add something to this?  Is 
there an existing set of keybindings and approach to the problem you 
particular like and think would be a good model (e.g. JAWS browsing, Window 
Eyes browsing, Home Page Reader, etc.)?


Regards,

Peter Korn
Sun Accessibility team


Luke Yelavich wrote:
> Hi Tom
> At 06:01 AM 30/04/2004, Tom and Esther Ward wrote:
>
> > Hi, List.
> > Recently, I grabbed the Mozilla 1.7 rc1 source code, and compiled it.
> > I am having several issues I would like to discuss about it.
> > I noticed that while tabbing through the page I can get spoken 
> > feedback on
> > the frame titles, but none of the links on the page get announced.
>
>
> I had the same problem as well, even under GNOME 2.6.
>
> > I also noticed on forms the buttons will get announced, but the edit 
> > fields are
> > ignored and are not spoken.
>
>
> The same here also.
>
> > When carot browsing is activated I had assumed it would allow me to 
> > uparrow
> > and down arrow through the page elements or at least the text on the 
> > pages.
> > Again I get no speech feedback.
>
>
> Since I have a bit of sight, I have found that the carrot seems to start 
> at the bottom for some reason, and pressing CTRL+Home doesn't always 
> help, and you don't know when you are at the top of the page.
>
> Another thing that I think I have mentioned earlier, is that the carrot 
> browsing mode doesn't take tables into consideration at all. One has to 
> know where the carrot is, and press CTRL+Right Arrow, or Right arrow 
> alone to get to the other section of the table.
>
> > Is there anyone or any specific list I should address Mozilla 
> > accessibility
> > with? I would like to get involved with testing Mozilla, help find
> > accessibility issues, and report those problems to the developers for 
> > future
> > fixes/changes.
>
>
> http
> ://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-accessibility
> Is the mailing list.
>
> > Currently, I linked Mozilla with gnome 2.4, but plan to update to 
> > Gnome 2.6
> > in the next couple of weeks. Does it make a large difference with Mozilla
> > weather I use Gnome 2.4 or Gnome 2.6?
>
>
> It will perhaps be a bit more responsive, but that is about it I think.
>
> Luke
>
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