Re: Mozilla 1.7 rc1 issues.
- From: Luke Yelavich <themuso themuso com>
- To: Peter Korn <Peter Korn Sun COM>
- Cc: Tom and Esther Ward <tward1978 earthlink net>, gnome-accessibility-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: Mozilla 1.7 rc1 issues.
- Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 00:03:20 +1000
Hi all
I second all suggestions proposed so far, but I am also thinking that we
may need something to indicate blocked quotations, as well as headings of
various levels.
Will probably think of more tomorrow, but this is a start from me.
Luke
At 10:24 AM 30/04/2004, Peter Korn wrote:
Hi Luke, Tom,
As you have deduced, Mozilla's present caret navigation leaves much to be
desired. This is being worked on. Alas, I don't have an estimate of when
it will get significantly better (beyond "as soon as possible").
I'd like to open a related topic: what do you (and the other Gnopernicus
users on this alias) want in a web browsing interface? Caret navigation
is critical for mouseless operation (a mouseless user must be able to do
anything a mouse-ed user can, including selecting text to copy to the
clipboard), and good feedback from Gnopernicus to caret navigation should
result in a basic level of blind/low-vision accessibility (especially if
you include the usual Ctrl-arrow, home/end stuff).
Now, is that sufficient?
Sufficient or not, what would you add if you could add something to
this? Is there an existing set of keybindings and approach to the problem
you particular like and think would be a good model (e.g. JAWS browsing,
Window Eyes browsing, Home Page Reader, etc.)?
Regards,
Peter Korn
Sun Accessibility team
Luke Yelavich wrote:
Hi Tom
At 06:01 AM 30/04/2004, Tom and Esther Ward wrote:
Hi, List.
Recently, I grabbed the Mozilla 1.7 rc1 source code, and compiled it.
I am having several issues I would like to discuss about it.
I noticed that while tabbing through the page I can get spoken feedback on
the frame titles, but none of the links on the page get announced.
I had the same problem as well, even under GNOME 2.6.
I also noticed on forms the buttons will get announced, but the edit
fields are
ignored and are not spoken.
The same here also.
When carot browsing is activated I had assumed it would allow me to uparrow
and down arrow through the page elements or at least the text on the pages.
Again I get no speech feedback.
Since I have a bit of sight, I have found that the carrot seems to start
at the bottom for some reason, and pressing CTRL+Home doesn't always
help, and you don't know when you are at the top of the page.
Another thing that I think I have mentioned earlier, is that the carrot
browsing mode doesn't take tables into consideration at all. One has to
know where the carrot is, and press CTRL+Right Arrow, or Right arrow
alone to get to the other section of the table.
Is there anyone or any specific list I should address Mozilla accessibility
with? I would like to get involved with testing Mozilla, help find
accessibility issues, and report those problems to the developers for future
fixes/changes.
http
://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/mozilla-accessibility
Is the mailing list.
Currently, I linked Mozilla with gnome 2.4, but plan to update to Gnome 2.6
in the next couple of weeks. Does it make a large difference with Mozilla
weather I use Gnome 2.4 or Gnome 2.6?
It will perhaps be a bit more responsive, but that is about it I think.
Luke
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