Re: Ang: Re: Pictogram support (Montreal Summit)

[Cesar Mauri <cesar crea-si com>]

Hi Mats, Peter and all,

> And what about support for Ruby Annotation in existing protocols for IM
> - will that be found anywhere?
> So on the wish list: An IM protocol with full support for Ruby
> Annotation - including graphics as part of the text - also in the
> annotation. But until then what?
> Mats

Agreed.

Cesar

> -----Peter Korn <peter korn oracle com> skrev: -----
>
>     Hi Cesar,
>
>     Helping people with language and cognitive disabilities communicate
>     with each other and with folks who don't have those disabilities is
>     one of the tasks under the AEGIS project
>     [http://www.aegis-project.eu]. In particular, AEGIS partners SU-DART
>     and FPD in Sweden (staff of whom are cc-ed: Mats, Lars, Bengt, and
>     Annika) are doing that work.
>
>     To that end, they are building fonts out of the CCF symbol sets that
>     they developed for helping folks in Sweden with language and
>     communication impairments. Initially these fonts would be used as
>     part of a text editor - displaying symbols alongside the
>     English/Swedish/Spanish/... words representing the same concepts (to
>     be done as a plug-in to OpenOffice.org / LibreOffice). But the
>     intention is that they could be used for direct communication - with
>     any communication application that supported multi-byte characters.
>
>
>     I'll let Mats/Lars/Bengt/Annika describe this in further detail.
>
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Peter
>
>     On 10/25/2011 12:52 PM, Cesar Mauri wrote:
> >     Hi all,
> >
> >     Recently I suggested to Meg Ford, who was attending the Montreal
> >     Summit,
> >     to ask Telepathy developers whether it would be possible to add
> >     support
> >     for pictogram based communication.
> >
> >     Here is my suggestion:
> >
> > >     Thinking in people with language and communication disorders (i.e.
> > >     people not able to read/write due to cognitive/mental disorders), it
> > >     would be interesting to have a IM client able to compose, send and
> > >     display messages made up pictograms + text.
> > >
> > >     So, messages would look like this:
> > >
> > >     http://1.bp.blogspot.com/___h4z60kN9fAk/TBnOIM61kUI/__AAAAAAAAAQ8/TM0fBXcTvyA/s1600/__cumplea%C3%B1os.png
> > >
> > >
> > >     Also, it would be useful to add TTS support in order to hear
> > >     messages written in plain text (which could be also useful for blind
> > >     people).
> > >
> > >     There had been some efforts in that way:
> > >
> > >     http://www.fundmaresme.com/messengervisual/
> >
> >
> >     And here Meg's answer:
> >
> > >     I spoke to one of the developers of Telepathy about this, and
> > >     here is
> > >     what he said:
> > >
> > >     Currently Telepathy does not support this type of feature. For
> > >     example,
> > >     users cannot send emoticons that they have drawn themselves.
> > >     Therefore,
> > >     you would need to write a library for this. If you are willing to
> > >     write
> > >     a library, they would be happy to have this feature.
> > >
> > >     Secondly, they recommend that you write a seperate app for this
> > >     feature,
> > >     but use the Empathy contact list. They recommend that the feature be
> > >     accessed through the accessibility menu.
> >
> >     Regarding the feasibility of implementing such a library on top of
> >     the supported protocols, Meg also told me:
> >
> > >     Do they all support sending icons? I assume that all of the chat
> > >     programs
> > >     do, but you would need to ask the Telepathy developers. I know
> > >     enough about
> > >     A.T. to be able to explain what this type of feature does from a
> > >     user-end
> > >     perspective, but I am not a programmer. Guillame Desmottes said
> > >     that you
> > >     would need to write an API to support this type of program.
> > >     Again, you can
> > >     speak to him about it. He said that some chat programs support,
> > >     for example,
> > >     sending user-made icons such as these http://emoticonhq.com/ . He
> > >     said
> > >     that you would need to write this type of A.P.I. for Telepathy in
> > >     order to
> > >     support the feature you are proposing. However, it would be best
> > >     if you
> > >     would discuss this with him if you want more details.
> >
> >
> >     And so here I am. My questions is:
> >
> >     - Do (most commonly used) supported protocols allow for sending
> >     arbitrary images along with text? Otherwise it would be pointless
> >     to try to write a library for this.
> >
> >
> >
> >     Thanks.
> >
> >     César
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