Re: READ this one: Summary of my ideas after talk with MacKiDo author.



Agree, but it should not only be possible to activate this global menu from
the control-center, but also by dragging like ICQ (see older post)
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> On Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 05:58:02PM -0800, Gerry Chu wrote:
> > Ouch. You bring up a lot of unadressed possibilities that need to be
> > addressed. This simplist and most elegant way to do this is to make the menu
> > bar go only on top, and non-movable. This is the only position that makes a
> > tiny smigen of sense. Now, if there is a menu bar and a panel on top, the
> > only option (for simplicity) should be menu on top, then panel, because
> > (seperate condition) if there is a vertical corner panel positioned on the
> > top, then it would logically go below the menu bar. consistancy.
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > menubar
> > -----------------------------------
> > panel
> > -----------------------------------
> > 
> > or
> > 
> > ---------------------------------
> > menubar
> > -------------------------------
> > panel |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > |
> > ------
> 
> You know, I used to think that Generalisation Is King. In Office97, menubars can
> be dragged anywhere on screen, and be docked pretty much anywhere - even on the
> sides of the window. I was very happy about this - it was much more generalised
> than previous versions of office, where the menu was stuck in one place and
> couldn't be moved.
> 
> Now, I see that that degree of customisation isn't really beneficial (who's
> going to put their menu on the bottom, anyway?) and can create confusion..
> 
> Also, if the menu is more specialised, then we can make sure it's nestling right
> up under that all-important screen edge. :)
> 
> So, if it's OK for me to change my mind, I'd like to have the above solution to
> the "where to put the menubar" problem.
> 
> This would mean that the "Global Menubar" checkbox puts a special paneloid
> across the top of the screen, where the menubar goes, and panels will dock
> underneath it. This will also make it more important that your windowmanager
> takes panels into account when maximising. :)
> 
> There may be confusion if, when maximised, you have a setup like:
> 
> ----------------------------------
> menubar
> ----------------------------------
> panel
> ----------------------------------
> titlebar
> ----------------------------------
> toolbar
> ----------------------------------
> 
> but that would be the user's own silly fault. :)
> 
> Tim Allen
> 
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