Re: OO as GNOME software (topic change)

[Drazen Kacar <dave arsdigita com>]

Liam Quin wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2001 at 10:45:24AM +0100, Drazen Kacar wrote:
> > I'm not sure if GTK 1.2 is good enough for OpenOffice, because it's a huge
> > application and GTK 1.2 has certain limitations. OTOH, GTK 2 isn't
> > finished yet and it's probably not well documented,
> Both of those are things you could help with.

That wasn't a complaint. I'm pretty happy with GTK 2 being finished when
it's finished and with GTK 1.2 being stable and binary compatible.
Very happy, actualy.

> And neither is an argument Sun for not using Gtk+.
> Whatever the limitations might be, it's software, and they can be fixed.

Well, yes, but the question is where to put limited developer resources.
For example, they might want to wait for Pango, because an office suite
needs I18N infrastructure. StarOffice wasn't excelling at that, though.
And yes, they can help with Pango, if they think it's worth it. But it
should be their decision. A bit of prodding from the user base could
help them reach it, I suppose. :-)

> There are one or two working programs using Gtk+ already ;-)

I've noticed. Some even don't spit criticals on stderr.

> I think it should be possible to use other toolkits,
> if themes interoperate, drag and drop, copy and paste interoperate,
> and keybinding and buttons work the same.

Recently there was a post on gtk-devel about loading and unloading GNOME
libraries in run-time in order to be able to interoperate with GNOME in
case the app is running in the GNOME environment. The idea looks appealing
(to me, at least).

> In other words, the question is not, what is the technology, but,
> what is the user experience?

Agreed.

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