Re: "gnome-getting-started-docs" video translation



Hi Mario,

Mario Blättermann <mario blaettermann gmail com>, Wed, 20 Mar 2013 21:53:35
+0100:

Am 19.03.2013 00:43, schrieb Petr Kovar:
On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 23:31:46 +0100
Petr Kovar <pknbe volny cz> wrote:

Yes, you can get the translated SVGs by building the tarball, see
above. Simply run "yelp ." in gnome-help/de/ to display the translated
Mallard document with included SVGs.

Actually, the command you need to run in gnome-help/de/ is:

yelp getting-started.page

This is because "yelp ." expects an index.page file, but this file is
already installed with gnome-help from gnome-user-docs, so we can't
install it with getting-started.

OK, it works so far. I've just downloaded the tarball v3.7.92, and it 
contains the translated SVG files. But what about translated webm 
animations? They are missing from the tarball and Yelp shows empty 
player frames only. 

AFAIK yelp should always fallback to play US English videos when there is no
translated video file available.

I've seen it Git, the webm files are included in the 
"figures" subfolder for the Czech language. Do I have to pre-create them 
also for German, or is this a task for the distribution packagers (by 
the "make" toolchain)?

We have committed the Czech files for testing purposes only. The whole
delivery mechanism that we are going to use for getting-started is still
kind of evolving; ideally, there should be a build system to trigger
rendering the translated videos whenever there is a translation commit
pushed to the repo.

So far, jimmac has had to manually re-render all videos, which takes many
hours to complete. He temporarily uploaded the videos here:

http://jimmac.fedorapeople.org/gnome3/getting-started/

We are planning to commit the translated videos on Monday when the 3.8.0
tarballs are due. Although working with large binary files like these in
Git can be really painful, we have no better solution so far - no make
target support etc. 

For translators, they don't need to do anything extra, just translate the
POT file for getting-started, which also includes the strings found in
videos.

For GNOME 3.8.0, distribution packagers will probably want to create
language packs for individual locales, as the overall package size for
getting-started would be too large otherwise. 

For those interested, there are two open bugs for this:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=692208

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=695792 (this is for distros that
are planning to ship the new gnome-initial-setup app)


Cheers,
Petr Kovar


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