Re: Ideas and graph

[bartscgr t-online de (Guenter Bartsch)]

hi bastien,

On 09/17, Bastien Nocera wrote:

> > humm - i'm just wondering what to do about this from the xine side. if
> > totem is going to switch to another library anyway, i guess gnome-xine
> > will need to be developed and supported further (since a lot of people
> > certainly want to have xine on their gnome-desktop).
> 
> Totem will use compile-time configuration probably. I guess that people
> that want Xine on their desktops already use xine-ui, not Totem anyway.
> Totem is a movie player that just works :)

uohm - i guess people who make binary packages will not be happy about
this aproach ... had to learn this the hard way in 3 years of xine
developement :)

> You're making gnome-xine as a Gnome UI with the same faults/problems
> that xine-ui has for end-users. In the end, Totem will probably have
> something like 5 or 6 config options, not much more. Xine has a
> gazillion, most of them aren't useful for the end-user.

the config option complexity problem is beind addressed in the new api
where each config option is associated with a "experience level" option
so beginners will only see few config options while experts can still
have full control over everything. i think nautilus for example uses a
similar aproach.

but i'm happy to see your aproach on this, of course :-)

> > also i'd like to hear from you if there's anything wrong with libxine or
> > if you have any wishes/feature requests - libxine's api is currently
> > being redesigned so this is the time to consider these. there are also
> > some efforts going on to push libxine into the direction of video
> > processing/editing and what's exiting about this one is that it looks
> 
> Video processing and editing ? Blimey, I hoped that Xine would just be a
> movie player and do it well...

that's another lesson i've learned from the xine project: whenever you
want to add a cool feature, open a new field, go in a new direction,
start a new project, there are people who shout "please don't do it!"
#-))

cheers,

   guenter

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