[gnome-network]Re: gnome-network for inclusion in 2.6

[Bastien Nocera <hadess hadess net>]

On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 11:23, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hi Rodrigo,
> 	One of my worries about gnome-network is that I feel its a pretty
> eclectic mix of things to have in a single tarball. I'm not convinced
> they really all belong together .. e.g. if you make an application use
> libgnetwork, do you really want people to have to install the remote
> desktop stuff in order to build the application or if you want the
> transfer manager, why do you have remote shell client. I suppose what
> I'm saying is that different bits of gnome-network seem to be targetted
> at completely different user bases.

I think it's alright to have everything in one tarball, as long as it
doesn't grow to some humongous size like gnome-games did.
Splitting the packages into smaller pieces is more of a packaging
problem.

> 	How about splitting it to different modules e.g.:
> 
> 	+ libgnetwork: networking related libraries (I actually think it might
> make sense to split up the library too - but keep the individual
> libraries in one module)

I would guess this is a pretty small library...

> 	+ gnome-remote-desktop: remote desktop sever and client.
> 
> 	+ gnome-file-sharing: the web server and the SMB, NFS etc. support you
> do later.
> 
> 	+ gnome-network-tools: remote shell client and network info tool.
> 
> 	I also think it would make more sense to individually evaluate the
> proposal for inclusion of these into 2.6.

These all fit pretty nicely together I would guess. As long as the file
sharing is disabled by default, I don't see the point of separating it
away.

> 	(Btw, I'm sorry if I sound like I'm putting a downer on the project -
> I'm really am glad you've revived gnome-network.)
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.
> 
> On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 09:43, Rodrigo Moya wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > I would like to propose gnome-network for inclusion in GNOME 2.6.
> > 
> > gnome-network is a revival of the old gnome-network (dead by 1.0.2),
> > which contained a strange mix of network tools. We got it at that state,
> > removed almost everything, and started from scratch with the intention
> > to provide a good set of networking tools for normal users.
> > 
> > As a result, version 1.99.2 (right now being tarballed *) is a nice set
> > of client-oriented tools and utilities, currently containing:
> > 
> > 	* a remote desktop client (formerly known as tsclient)
> > 	* a remote shell client (telnet/ssh)
> > 	* a network info tool, similar to Mac OS's, containing
> > 	  tabs for ifconfig, ping, netstat, ...
> > 	* a desktop sharing application (currently disabled in
> > 	  the build due to problems with libvncserver)
> > 	* a personal web server. This is currently our temporary
> > 	  solution for users file sharing, but the plan is to
> > 	  integrate with existing networks (SMB, NFS, NCP, etc)
> > 	  once we can do that as a normal user (ie, no root access).
> > 	* a libgnetwork library, which is the result of renaming
> > 	  libgtcpsocket and have it as a starting point for more
> > 	  network-oriented APIs, like Zeroconf integration and
> > 	  that sort of things. This will be available in the
> > 	  next release, since it still needs some renaming.
> > 	* a transfer manager, still in the works, so nothing to
> > 	  show yet.
> > 
> > gnome-network even has a website ->
> > http://www.gnome.org/projects/gnome-network
> > 
> > cheers
> > 
> > * I propose the module before having the tarball because I've got
> > problems building it :-)
> > 
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