Re: GTK+, WM, desktops and CSD

[Olivier Fourdan <fourdan gmail com>]

Hi Jasper,

On 5 March 2015 at 21:39, Jasper St. Pierre <jstpierre mecheye net> wrote:
> Ah, I think I see the disagreement.

No real disagreement, just discussions :)

> We don't decide between SSD and CSD based on the presence of a compositor
> and _GTK_FRAME_EXTENTS, we instead push really hard for CSD with an SSD
> fallback.

I think you hit the nail on the head here :)

> It's a subtle difference, but it shows our preference: we don't want a hint
> to say that the DE prefers SSD, we want a hint to say that the DE can
> support/not support CSD.

That would work as well, why not.

> If you want to help improve CSD fallbacks to behave better when we don't
> have a compositor, that would be great! But ultimately, SSD does not lead to
> the types of applications and the types of experiences we want to create, so
> a hint asking us to prefer to use SSD that we would realistically mostly
> ignore isn't particularly useful.

I have nothing against CSD myself, quite the contrary, but not anyone
wants CSD even when the DE supports it.

Cheers,
Olivier