Re: [orca-list] braille positioning (was Re: progress of progress bars is not reported., is it a known thing?)

[Willie Walker <William Walker Sun COM>]

Hi Marco:

> but I don't understand why the braille-string is genrated this way
> usually, the frame title is displayed in front of the first element in a 
> frame - like this:
> "orca screenreader / magnifier preferences"
>
> the focus is on preferences

When I bring up the Orca preferences, I see the braille line as so, and
the cursor is on the 'G' in General (for the General page tab):

'orca Application Orca Preferences Dialog General'

On a smaller braille display, just the word "General" is showing.  The
stuff to the left is contextual information (which application you are
in, which dialog you are in, and so on).

> if you display the cursor at the beginning of the braille display so that 
> only "preferences" is displayed - it looks right, but it isn't right
> "orca screenreader / magnifier" is the title of the frame (I guess) and it 
> should only displayed if I asked for it
> so there is no need to add this to a braille-string  in order to hide it
> by shifting the braille display until the focus is at first position

The main idea behind the braille context is that all the contextual
information (e.g., window title, dialog name, panel name, etc.) would
always be there, allowing you to do a quick pan left to view it.  The
problem we're running into is that if all the text can fit on the
display, we show it.  That sounds like a bug.

> confuse the user, but for braille it would be nice to have an overview of 
> all elements in the current line - because then it makes sence to use the 
> cursor-routing
...
> I know it looks like a mix of flat-review for braille and 
> cursor-tracking-mode for speech
> there are different needs for speech and braille

Understood.  The experience you're looking for is something we're
calling 'screen braille', which we have an RFE for (albeit the
description is a bit terse):

   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=400732

Thanks!

Will