Re: [orca-list] Some bugs with perhaps possible fixing in master branch
- From: Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>
- To: Geoff Shang <geoff quitelikely com>
- Cc: orca-list <orca-list gnome org>
- Subject: Re: [orca-list] Some bugs with perhaps possible fixing in master branch
- Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:20:06 -0500
I'd forgotten about the Research It feature. I never ever ever use
that thing. I remember how absolutely annoyed I was when it came out
and all the issues with Java accessibility remained unresolved. I can
feel my frustration mounting just remembering it. You make a very
very good point with that one. Usefullness really does have to be the
key determinant when manpower is limited. If this feature with
control c is a royal pain to code into Orca, I say forget about it and
move on to other more pressing things like QT apps or stuff like
Impress and the like. Oh, God how I hated that Research It Feature!
Most ridiculous waste of money there ever was!
Alex M
On 6/4/12, Geoff Shang <geoff quitelikely com> wrote:
Hi,
This is straying off-topic. I will attempt to make it relevant so please
stick with me.
In response to Alex' message asserting that JAWS features are implemented
due to demand, this may have been true once but it's not necessarily true
anymore. Two reasons for this:
1. They are the most used screen reader, particularly in the USA which is
their main concern. As such they can pretty much do what they want. The
other screen readers need to play catch-up and everybody knows it.
2. Many people take out software maintenance agreements for major
releases of JAWS. This entitles a person to the next two major releases.
Back in the day, these major releases were usually worth it, being notable
upgrades in performance or functionality. But now, Freedom Scientific has
effectively made it a two-year support contract because they roll out a
new major release every single year. This of course gives them a more
reliable income stream from SMA customers. However, it also means that
they need to come up with enough new features to warrant a new version
designation, or at least to make it look like people are actually getting
something for their money. So this results in highly dubious features
like ResearchIt that very arguably should not even be in a screen reader
being touted by FS as a major feature in JAWS 11.
Now I say all this because we should take this into account if we want to
consider using the functionality present in commercial screen readers as a
gauge for what should be implemented in free ones. My point is that the
wants and needs of the user are not the only things that drive commercial
screen reader development, and are quite possibly not the most influential
ones that do. Since screen readers like Orca are not subject to such
commercial pressures, and particularly since they also lack the kind of
development man-power that commercial money can buy, we can and must think
more about the usefulness of various features rather than merely copy what
someone else decided to do.
Cheers,
Geoff.
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