Re: [orca-list] Revamped explanation of problems relating to lack of speech accessability

[Alex Midence <alex midence gmail com>]

Very interesting.  I take it you are a musician?  The reason I was looking
into all of this was someone on another mailing list was asking if you could
do serious professional audio production in Linux.  He was a user of Sound
Forge on Windows and the Adobe Creative Suite.  He didn't know if there was
anything accessible to compare to them.  Curious, I made inquiries and tried
things out as I am a musician myself though I don't record my work.
(Classical guitar sans amplification of any kind)  Anyway, I ran into tool
after tool that was poorly accessible or stuff that used Jack which played
havoc with Orca.  I remember being appalled by what seemed the sheer lack of
professional tools available to blind people in Linux given that, for
centuries, music has been one of the  most common and respected professions
for a blind person to be in.  You think of figures like Homer, Ah Bing,
Joaquin Rodrigo, Ray Charles, Stevy Wonder and Andrea Bocelli and the
thought of an operating system entirely devoid of options for people like
them to use was awful.  Especially when you think of amazing tools like
Ardour and Rosegarden which are of professional quality.  I have since
learned of some command line options out there but haven't had much time to
really look into them properly.  

Alex M
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Janina Sajka' [mailto:janina rednote net] 
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:16 PM
To: Alex Midence
Cc: 'D. A. H.'; orca-list gnome org
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Revamped explanation of problems relating to lack
of speech accessability

I believe jack and orca are incompatible, but I don't regard this as a
problem because, if I'm doing the kind of serious audio work that requires
jack, I don't want my screen reader mixed in with my music.
Besides, there are very affordable audio modules available these days,
certainly adequate for TTS output at under $15 USD.

On the other hand, if you care about jack, you are probably running
something considerably more quality, i.e. RME., that cost possibly two
magnitudes more.

PS: I currently have 8 audio devices all funneling through a Mackie mixer
with two sets of output speakers that I can route through.

Janina

Alex Midence writes:
> I wonder how Jack affects Orca these days.  I tried fooling with Jack 
> once back on Ubuntu 10.04 and each and every time I did it (It was 
> when I was trying Ardour out), it stopped talking.  It's like it just 
> took over the whole sound system of the machine.  I came to the 
> conclusion that you probably need 2 sound cards to run Jack, one for 
> Orca's use and one for Jack's but I don't know if this is a correct
conclusion or not.
> Alex M
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: orca-list [mailto:orca-list-bounces gnome org] On Behalf Of 
> Janina Sajka
> Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2013 11:00 PM
> To: D. A. H.
> Cc: orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Revamped explanation of problems relating to 
> lack of speech accessability
>
> Well, my experience is the opposity, and I will insist it's not for 
> lack of trying.
>
> At this point I'm no longer interested in system wide pulse. I 
> currently have 8 audio devices, and I explicitly don't want pulse 
> anywhere near at least 7 of them. I wish there were a simple way to 
> disable/enable pulse on a per audio card basis, but there doesn't seem to
be such a thing.
> I will add further that there's a wider community of Fedora users who 
> won't go near pulse. One group is the people doing professional 
> music/audio work on Linux. They use jack by and large, not pulse.
>
> Janina
>
> D. A. H. writes:
> > In my experiences of the past few years, Pulse has "just worked" in 
> > Debian, Fedora, Sabayon and Open Suse, to name a few.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out 
> > how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
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> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org Find out 
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Janina Sajka,   Phone:  +1.443.300.2200
                        sip:janina asterisk rednote net
                Email:  janina rednote net

Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup:       http://a11y.org

The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Chair,  Protocols & Formats     http://www.w3.org/wai/pf
        Indie UI                        http://www.w3.org/WAI/IndieUI/