Re: User-Friendly Names

[Christophe Fergeau <christophe fergeau mipsys com>]

I already saw a thread about that on one of the gnome mailing lists,
don't remember which one though.
This may also be worthwhile to move that discussion to the usability
list, that's probably more appropriate there :)

Christophe



Le ven 20/09/2002 à 17:11, Benjamin Kahn a écrit :
> Christophe,
> 	You're right, that's great work, and hard to disagree with.  I think
> I'm trying to argue that launchers should be displayed this way:
> 
> If Generic Name and Name exists:
>    [Name] [Generic Name]
> If Generic Name Doesn't exist, but Name does:
>    [Name]
> If Generic Name exists, but Name does not:
>    [Generic Name]
> If Neither Generic Name nor Name Exist:
>    [Command]
> 



> 
> On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 10:28, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
> > Please read
> > http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/desktop-integration.html#menu-item-names
> > before reinventing the wheel
> > 
> > Christophe
> > 
> > Le ven 20/09/2002 à 16:36, Benjamin Kahn a écrit :
> > > Why not make the displayed name be the application name followed by the
> > > generic name?  Thus Evolution would become:
> > > 
> > > Evolution Groupware Suite (or whatever)
> > > and Galeon would be:  Galeon Web Browser.
> > > 
> > > Alternatively, it could be Generic Name (Application Name) so:
> > > 
> > > Groupware Suite (Evolution)
> > > Web Browser (Galeon)
> > > 
> > > The reason is that, for new users, it's confusing to see so many brand
> > > names.  (Gimp, Galeon, Evolution, Pan, GnuCash, etc.)  They don't want
> > > to think about multiple web browsers and IM clients and Email programs. 
> > > However, when they become more experienced and they become more familiar
> > > with the brand names, they want to be able to choose which applications
> > > they can run.  We shouldn't make that hard.
> > > 
> > > (In the UNIX world, there are a few really famous brands already: 
> > > StarOffice and Mozilla.  Would anyone argue that the menu items for
> > > these applicaitons should be: Office Suite and Web Browser?)
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 2002-09-20 at 10:14, Sander Vesik wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, John J. Boyer wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > For Gnome to really compete against Windows, the names of components on 
> > > > > the desktop should be more descriptive. For example, i keep forgetting 
> > > > > what Evolution does. I'm just studying Gnome, but I thought I should point 
> > > > > this out before the exotic names became a habit.
> > > > > This follows the path that Unix has been taking since the beginning - too 
> > > > > much jargon. For example, nobody seems to know what "dired" means.
> > > > > The non-descriptive names may seem interesting, but people who just want 
> > > > > to use a computer to get their work done will appreciate names like "file 
> > > > > Manager" instead of "Nautilus."
> > > > > John
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > So, evolution would become 'Messaging Client' or 'Ximian Messaging Client' ?
> > > > 
> > > > > 
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