Re: spatial stuff detail

[Guido Schimmels <guido schimmels freenet de>]

Am 23.09.2003 14:25:45 schrieb(en) Matthew Berg:
> On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 08:15, Guido Schimmels wrote:
>
> The biggest issue, IMHO, with bundled libraries isn't a matter of
> space
> or memory; it's updates.  Is it really in the best interest of
> security
> to have to wait for a half dozen applications to be repackaged  
> because
> a
> hole was found in libhippityhooplah?

I'll repeat my claim that 90% of libraries are not used by more than 1- 
3 apps. Only of those I'm talking. When there are 6 apps using a  
library, 2 of them will break when you upgrade the library. Fact of  
life. How do distributors solve this problem traditionally? Upgrade  
those 2 apps together with the library. Result:

apt-get evolution == apt-get dist-upgrade

And that is better? Regular 100M downloads are not so nice for modem  
users, which are, on a world-wide scale, the vast majority.

And security holes almost always only affect commandline tools and  
popular shared libraries. How does a remote exploit for GIMP look like?

> I'd also wonder how you're supposed to handle things like menu
> entries,

You start apps by clicking on them in the file-manager. Resting the  
mouse-pointer of the appdir reveals the tool-tip. Right-click over the  
appdir and select "Info" for further details. That's how ROX-Filer does  
it.
In other words with appdirs and a decent file-manager  *.desktop files
are redundant.

> gconf keys, mime info, help files, etc...  How do they get registered
> in
> the first place, and how do they get cleaned up when the application
> goes away?

Each ROX-appdir comes with a startup-script (AppRun). In there you can  
check for these things and issue the necessary commands on first- 
launch. Global gconf keys may be usefull to enforce a corporate policy.  
Outside of this realm what's the point. Of course you can always make  
the script prompt for the root password. Also works for the mime- 
database. How I deal with help files I have already answered somewhere  
else in this thread.
Cleaning up? For ROX-apps: rm -r ~Choices/<Appname>.
That is why hiding the settings is __BAD__.

Even if in some cases drag&drop alone is not enough. What good does  
spreading out the guts of an office suite all over the disk do?