Hi Micheal! Am Freitag, den 13.05.2011, 17:37 +0200 schrieb Michael Terry: > (Note that I write here with love and without heat. I'm a GNOME > developer and user and I want the world to be a better place.) > > I guess I was hoping more for collaboration than assimilation. :) Actually I am pretty disappointed how the discussion here went so far. Fact is, that we want to have a sane backup story in GNOME and we want backup to be a first-class citizen. And in addition, with deja-dup there exists a tool which fits probably 80-90% of these needs. > * DD gets the slightly increased integration of being in the panel vs > a window (really, not a large distinction in the grand scheme). I wouldn't feel that this is "slightly increased integration". Backup seems something system-wide for me where I don't want to pay too much attention. I want to configure it once and for all and it should just work afterwards. All I probably want is a notification asking me to do a backup when I plugin my external USB-Drive. So a control-center panel looks very reasonable to me. But it seems the people here drifted off into technical details on how to create a control-center panel, where to host the code and what "camp" to be in to use your words. I think that is the wrong approach! Could we agree that we want backup to be a key feature of GNOME 3.2 and that we want to use Deja Dup because it is there and it is working here on desktop-devel-list and let designers, developers and maintainers work out how to make that happen? There are lots of possible ways, involving having a panel that is only shown when deja-dup is installed or that prompts for installation of deja-dup if it's no installed and extending deja-dup to make extensive use of the notification-spec so no real "main window" is needed. If GNOME is able to motivated anybody from contributing and integrating and instead is just absorbing any motivation I really feel we make a bad job. So, Michael, I really hope you can move this forward with the right people without having to fight infrastructure flamewars. In the end, duplicity is neither hosted/controlled by GNOME... Regards, Johannes
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