Re: Several comments on panel, nautilus and evolution

[Erik Bågfors <bagfors pdc kth se>]

On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 09:13:33AM -0500, Adrian Hosey wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2000, [iso-8859-1] Erik Bågfors wrote:
> : On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 11:25:54AM -0400, Dan Winship wrote:
> : > 
> : > I can't speak for Nautilus, but in Evolution, that's not a bug, that's
> : > a feature. Dotfiles are hidden, which is fine for config files and
> : > other things that you want to make non-obvious. But the "evolution"
> : > directory is used to store all of the user's local mail, contacts,
> : > appointments, etc, which is user data, not configuration. You don't
> : > want to hide the user's mail from him.
> : 
> : The way I see it this is not the way it should be.
> : 
> : Hidden directories should be for things that you don't normaly work (poke
> : around) with.
> : Evolution will do most the work in the evolution-directory and you don't
> : want to mess with it alot outside of evolution. Therefore it should be a
> : hidden dir.
> 
> Maybe the way you do your mail. I'm doing stuff in my mail/ directory all
> the time. Scripts, grep, etc.

Acctually so do I but that's not the point.

The point of the mail/ directory as I see it is that all mail-programs
should know where to find it.  Evolution keeps it's own mail directory
anyway..

> : .netscape/bookmarks.html is another example of a file that is not a 
> : config-file but since only netscape should need to care about it, it's
> : hidden.
> 
> The complexity and significance of the bookmark page is a couple orders of
> magnitude less (to me) than the complexity and significance of my mail.

I agree.  I wouldn't mind putting the mbox-files outside of a .-directory..
but not the rest of evolution.

> I can't speak for everyone but for myself and my coworkers mail is a
> lifeblood. I want it where I can see it.

It's easy to create a link if you want it more where you can see it.  It's
harder to create a link to make it not be where you see it.

> You can come back with the "power user vs. novice user" argument but I
> don't think having a directory called Evolution/ is going to kill the
> novice user. It might even help him learn a couple things.

novice user shouldn't mess around with the files in the evolution
directory.  If they for some reason want to they should at least know
enough to find the directory even if it has a dot infront of it.

power user finds the directory even if it has a dot infront of it :)

Think if all programs would create dirs without dots!

The only dir's I ever want to see is src, usr, public_html (and that's
questionable) work, edu and maybe a few more.  That means directories I
create myself.

/Erik
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