Re: ideas on default configuration of sawfish shipped with Gnome-1.4

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Matt Tucker wrote:

> -- Vlad Harchev <hvv hippo ru> spake thusly:
> >  I think that sawfish is a wonderful window manager, and I think much
> >  of its power (and also power of X itself) is hidden from the average
> > user in the "out-of-the-box" configuration. I think that this should
> > be fixed as suggested below. 
> > 
> >  Currently, there is no "destroy window" operation in the window menu
> >  - only "close window". I think the ability to destroy window
> > unconditionally is one of the powers of X (and is very useful when
> > working with very unstable apps), so I think that this operation
> > should be added to the window menu. Addition of this menu item can be
> > achieved by adding one line to lisp file (I can provide a patch).
> This item was removed several versions ago by the primary developer
> (John Harper). I suspect you'll have a hard time convincing him to add
> it back in, but you might be able to look through the archives to get
> some idea of his rationale. I'm pretty sure it's been discussed since
> moving over to the new server.

 OK, thanks for pointing it, I will check the archives..
 As for convincing - I hope I won't be alone :)
> >  Also it would be nice to include a "Menu for selected window"
> >  operation that will popup window menu for the window user selects
> > after selecting this menuitem - this is very useful if one wants to
> > kill transient window or window without decorations (provided that
> > there are no keybindings defined for popping the window menu) -  or
> > at least use some other item from window menu.
> Why not just bind "Popup window menu" to some keybinding in the window
> keymap? I use "W-Button2-Off" myself. ("W" being the key(s) used for
> default WM shortcuts, which on my system is Hyper).

 Yes, of course I have it bound to keybinding too. The point is whether there
is out-of-the-box binding, and better, menuitem too, for this operation.

 Best regards,

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