Re: report on [bad] status of i18n of gnome apps - somebody should explicitly care about it

["Dmitry G . Mastrukov" <dmitry taurussoft org>]

На Сбт, 24 Мар 2001 16:18:13 Vlad Harchev написал:
> 
> On 24 Mar 2001, Ettore Perazzoli wrote:
> 
> > >   I think no more than 1.5 month of work needed for fixing 90%
> of all software
> > > and libraries shipped with fifth toe and gnome (evolution not
> included, fixing
> > > it will require almost 2 weeks IMO). 
> > 
> >   What are you basing this estimate on?
> 
>  I18n-friendliness of mailer requires considerable efforts. It's
> reallistical
> to code everything needed in 7 days (worst case estimation) with
> very little
> testing, and dedicate a week to testing all i18n aspects - that's
> why I
> estimated it as 2 weeks.
>  
> >   We are doing our best to make Evolution fully I18N-aware (eg. we
> are
> > using UTF-8 all over the place, and we have EFont to deal with the
> font
> > issues).  Any feedback on what should be improved to make our I18N
> > support better would be truly appreciated, as we do want to make
> > non-latin-1 users happy before 1.0 gets shipped.
> 
>  Thank you for your intents. Yes, utf8 can be considered a requisite
> for i18n,
> but it's not all that is needed. Here is a list of what is needed:
> 
> * charset in which messages are sent and transfer encoding in which
> mails are
>   sent has to be configurable by user (sending everything in utf8 is
> not
>   sufficient since there are email to pager gateways that are
> stupid, and
>   pagers don't like utf8), and utf8 is not always good idea due to
> size of
>   resultant representation (it's better to try to send messages in
> single-byte
>   charset).
Yes, Evo-0.9 sends my russian mail in iso-8859-5, but my locale is
ru_RU.KOI8-R. Iso-8859-5 is ISO, but 99% of russian mail is in koi8-r
and windows-1251. So it's should be fine to have default outgoing
charset (locale charset?) and to have ability to set by hand charset
of the outgoing mail: "This message I want to send in koi8-r and this
I want to send in windows-1251". Next Evo loses whitespace in russian
Subject. Next it should be fine to manually set incoming charset.
Sometimes I receive mail in one charset in header but in really in
another - if I can't manually change mail charset I can't read
message.
It's not something specific for russian in i18n issues. If Evo is a
replacement for Outlook, look at Outlook :). Even PanEuro version does
similar things.

Dmitry