Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] audiocd view in (net)rhythmbox

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

lör 2003-04-19 klockan 20.07 skrev Colin Walters:
> On Sat, 2003-04-19 at 12:56, Jorn Baayen wrote:
> 
> > I think it is really important we should not hardcode mad there, I don't
> > know of any vorbis stations but who knows - we should definetely support
> > them.
> > Once again I still think it is better to have these things fixed in
> > gstreamer and not work around them, there is really no hurry - we don't
> > have an rb ready for release anyway.
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> > Yeah, that buffering and queue stuff would be good to have - could you
> > make a patch adding this to mm head?
> 
> You know, one of the reasons some of these issues got fixed in GStreamer
> is *because* I kept pushing them to do it by giving them a working,
> released app that needed support for stuff.  If we just sit on our butts
> and wait for the GStreamer people to fix every single problem before
> releasing anything, where's their motivation?  They want to fix issues
> in software that people out there actually use.

I have bugs in bugzilla for all gst bugs I run into, that should be
enough I'd hope. Plus I don't see how a working, released app with
workaround helps fixing the bugs it works around. That's not exactly a
test case is it, but that aside.

+ thinking (net)rb is ready for general consumption is just nonsense, so
putting in hacks 'for the users' is bullshit.

> 
> Anyways.  If you're going to be this way I don't see the point in trying
> to merge our monkey-media trees right now, since they will likely
> diverge again, and you don't seem like you're planning to release
> monkey-media anytime soon, and I'm not going to be tethered to its
> complete lack of any release schedule.

I was actually planning to do a release real soon, since it seems to be
working very well for local stuff so far.

Anyway, if anyone just keeps forking I see little hope in getting a
decent, coordinated rb ever off the ground again. I mean what do we have
now, netrb, Company babbling about something called libparty, whats
more..
(I do not consider a bunch of glue-together hacks decent, sorry. I know
I'm sounding bitchy here but this is pissing me off.)
I mean hell I am not really motivated but I'm just trying to get some
things done again, like implementing the audiocd support because the
view was fixed. I'd be just as happy not do anything, I don't really
have an interest here any more - just trying to help getting things
going again.
Just trying to pick this up without any prior rb or even gnome
experience is just not going to work, and I can't say the code in the
netrb tree looks very healty either.

</rant>

Jorn



> 
> I still want to merge in the future.
> 
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