Re: How do I switch to Sawfish??

[Frederic Crozat <fcrozat mandrakesoft com>]

Le lun 02/09/2002 à 05:26, David A. Bartmess a écrit :
> On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 17:30, Alan wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:01:29AM +0100, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:05:54PM +0200, textshell neutronstar dyndns org wrote:
> > > > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 03:06:44PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> > > > > > The Window Manager in a desktop environment should be prechosen and just
> > > > > > work. And if you really need a different Window Manager then you are
> > > > > > advanced enough to search for it in gconf-editor, do a killall ...., or
> > > > > > just ask someone how to do it.
> > > > All software sucks, force one window manager at the user when there is no single
> > > > window manager that it the least sucking one for most users 
> > > 
> > > You know what's funny? How quickly people forget history (even recent
> > > history).
> > > Not so many years ago, being able to switch the window manager was one of
> > > the many great advantages of GNOME over KDE...
> > > 
> > > And also that you could so easily tweak the desktop so you had just that
> > > right feel and not the feel pre-imposed.
> > > 
> > > Having things that just work, well... they only just work... they don't
> > > necessarily feel as good to everyone... being able to tweak is a Good
> > > Thing, convincing people that they are advanced just because they can
> > > change gconf keys? Puh-lease... More advanced than a robot? Yes.
> > > Advanced? No way...
> > > 
> > > Anyway, it is always a hard balance between defining what's good and
> > > what's not, and how to balance tastes, but you definitely can't force
> > > peace between the hosts of Greece and Troy so let's not pretend there is
> > > a configuration silver bullet, m'kay?
> > 
> > I've been thinking about this for a while, and a
> > basic/intermediate/advanced scheme might be a Good Thing.  One of the
> > bitches that I've heard a lot of about GNOME2 is that suddenly all the
> > options are gone, and some little details that people liked and depended
> > on are gone (no specifics that's just the feel that I've gotten).  Would
> > having more options available in an advanced prefs view (or a global
> > option that is set via the prefs, which applications/appets check before
> > displaying their preference options).
> > 
> > Not sure if it's been discussed before (I haven't seen it) or if it's
> > just a lame idea, but thought I'd throw it out.  I have to agree with
> > Rui though, that the downfall of KDE a while back was that it was too
> > stringent on what you could and couldn't do.  While I agree that useless
> > prefs should be eliminated, sometimes it's good to have lots of choice
> > :)
> > 
> > alan
> 
> I'd agree with that.. I couldn't find any way to interactively change
> the windowmanager, or the window decorations, etc, etc, etc. Seems like
> Gnome is going the way of Windows, where they know better than you what
> you want to do...

Really ??

Have you look at Configuration/GNOME/Theme applet : there is a window
border section to change metacity decorations..

Same in Configuration/GNOME/Keybindings for metacity keybinding..


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Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft