Re: How do I switch to Sawfish??

["David A. Bartmess" <dingodave edingo net>]

On Sun, 2002-09-01 at 17:30, Alan wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 01:01:29AM +0100, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote:
> > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 11:05:54PM +0200, textshell neutronstar dyndns org wrote:
> > > On Sun, Sep 01, 2002 at 03:06:44PM -0400, Sean Middleditch wrote:
> > > > > The Window Manager in a desktop environment should be prechosen and just
> > > > > work. And if you really need a different Window Manager then you are
> > > > > advanced enough to search for it in gconf-editor, do a killall ...., or
> > > > > just ask someone how to do it.
> > > All software sucks, force one window manager at the user when there is no single
> > > window manager that it the least sucking one for most users 
> > 
> > You know what's funny? How quickly people forget history (even recent
> > history).
> > Not so many years ago, being able to switch the window manager was one of
> > the many great advantages of GNOME over KDE...
> > 
> > And also that you could so easily tweak the desktop so you had just that
> > right feel and not the feel pre-imposed.
> > 
> > Having things that just work, well... they only just work... they don't
> > necessarily feel as good to everyone... being able to tweak is a Good
> > Thing, convincing people that they are advanced just because they can
> > change gconf keys? Puh-lease... More advanced than a robot? Yes.
> > Advanced? No way...
> > 
> > Anyway, it is always a hard balance between defining what's good and
> > what's not, and how to balance tastes, but you definitely can't force
> > peace between the hosts of Greece and Troy so let's not pretend there is
> > a configuration silver bullet, m'kay?
> 
> I've been thinking about this for a while, and a
> basic/intermediate/advanced scheme might be a Good Thing.  One of the
> bitches that I've heard a lot of about GNOME2 is that suddenly all the
> options are gone, and some little details that people liked and depended
> on are gone (no specifics that's just the feel that I've gotten).  Would
> having more options available in an advanced prefs view (or a global
> option that is set via the prefs, which applications/appets check before
> displaying their preference options).
> 
> Not sure if it's been discussed before (I haven't seen it) or if it's
> just a lame idea, but thought I'd throw it out.  I have to agree with
> Rui though, that the downfall of KDE a while back was that it was too
> stringent on what you could and couldn't do.  While I agree that useless
> prefs should be eliminated, sometimes it's good to have lots of choice
> :)
> 
> alan

I'd agree with that.. I couldn't find any way to interactively change
the windowmanager, or the window decorations, etc, etc, etc. Seems like
Gnome is going the way of Windows, where they know better than you what
you want to do...

Sorry, but just my feelings on that one!
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