Re: default panel configuration

[Sean Middleditch <elanthis awesomeplay com>]

On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 16:03, Rodney Dawes wrote:
> I'd like to see the Notification Area and Clock to merge and
> then just always be on the menu panel, with the other panels
> possibly being removed in favor of it. They would work great
> next to the task menu, assuming the resizing in the applet
> was fixed to resize to the right, instead of left, since it
> would be on the right side of the panel. This would give us
> more of a mac-os style behaviour, and simplify the panel a
> lot, if we got rid of the other panel modes. I'd also like
> to see the menu panel Applications/Actions menus go away in
> favor of a single icon in the upper left. Yet even more
> simplification that could be done.

I'm not sure combining those applets would be good (people might not
want it to look like a Mac; perhaps they want the status docks on the
left and clock stay on right), but have applets align to the right (or
down in vert panels) would be excellent.  It's one of the most annoying
things with setting up applets on a panel, if they resize and move
(i.e., status dock gets more items, it is pushed to left) and then
resizes smaller again, it doesn't move back.

A bug I submitted (http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85959)
offered a possible solution.  It's definitely not going in for the 2.2
time-frame (I'd be surprised to see it in 2.4), but it would make panel
applets a lot more user friendly, so far as placement goes.  Applets
could resize all they needed to, and have the other
applets/launchers/etc. *usually* end up in the right place afterwords.

My proposal isn't perfect (I can think of times it wouldn't work as well
as a user might want), getting some discussion on this topic (perhaps
after 2.2 is out and we have time) would be good, I think.

Not that any of you particularly care what I think.  ~,^

> 
> -- dobey
> 
> On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 15:48, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 09:32, MArk Finlay wrote:
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> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2003-01-06 at 19:44, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> > > > Hey,
> > > >=20
> > > > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 08:40, MArk Finlay wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > > Has anyone given any thought to updating the default panel configuratio=
> > > n
> > > > > for 2.2? For example it would probably make sense to have the
> > > > > notification area on the panel by default.
> > > >=20
> > > > 	Does anything in core GNOME use the notification are yet ?
> > > 
> > > the cd player does. It'd be a pain for every app that does to have to
> > > tell the user to add the applet if it is not there already
> > 
> > 	Yes, but I think most users will be confused with an empty grab handle
> > on the panel - that's why I don't want it there by default. Maybe that's
> > more a bug with the applet rather than a reason to not have it there by
> > default, though ...
> > 
> > Good Luck,
> > Mark.
> 
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