Re: Proposal: Replace all references to master/slave in GNOME modules

[mcatanzaro gnome org]

On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 6:08 AM, Michael Gratton <mike vee net> wrote:
> This has already been covered in the original proposal under 
> objection (1) "It doesn't matter". As has already been discussed, 
> what actually doesn't matter is what you or I think, it is the people 
> who have been affected by the language we use that matter. These are 
> the people who won't contribute to GNOME because of these terms, and 
> it is the project that loses out in the end.

You've yet to provide any evidence for this. We're asking for evidence 
because it is *extremely* difficult to believe. You're losing us here.

> To address some of your points directly however, this censorship in 
> as much as the CoC is censorship, and as much as you already 
> self-censor when choosing names for things in projects you 
> participate in. That is to say, not actually censorship at all. In 
> fact, you can see this proposal as simply aiming to extend the CoC to 
> our documentation, API, and development infrastructure.

Michael, the events CoC is a reasonable CoC written by reasonable 
people designed to ensure we treat each other reasonably well. It has 
broad support -- perhaps not universal, but at least pretty broad -- 
from the GNOME community because we mostly all agree it is reasonable.

What you're proposing is not reasonable. It's really not. There's no 
way you're going to convince the community that we should avoid 
commonly-used words that are generally considered inoffensive, just 
because a small minority might feel otherwise (which, in this case, is 
hard to believe, but I suppose people are not always reasonable).

If you want to help make the GNOME community more inclusive in a more 
productive way, you could, for example, work on generalizing the events 
CoC to apply to all GNOME community interactions, like this mailing 
list, rather than just specific in-person events. I would suspect that 
would have broad support.

Michael