Re: [Rhythmbox-devel] yet another new mockup (meta)

[Jorn Baayen <jorn nl linux org>]

tis 2003-05-13 klockan 02.03 skrev James Kahn:
> Quoting Jorn Baayen <jorn@nl.linux.org>:
> > tis 2003-05-13 klockan 00.09 skrev Daniel Borgmann:
> > > To tell the truth, I don't even own a CD burner. So I couldn't care less
> > > about the burn to CD functionality. :) I just thought it would be cool
> > > to have it there and it could be especially neat for ripping CD's. Throw
> > > a CD in, hit the button, click, wait, done. :) 
> > 
> > Yes, but maybe you burn a CD once a month. I think clicking a menu->Burn
> > CD is still easy enough, of course it's one click more but hey.. :)
> > I really don't think we should have something really uncommon like this
> > in the main ui.
> 
> I think it should be present in the playlist UI, but am not so sure about the 
> main library view.  The meta-button is a brilliant idea and should be used 
> (I've never seen iTunes, was it taken from there?).

But why should it be present? I mean, the whole point of toolbar etc is
to include commonly used actions..

just for the kick of having something spiffy like a 'meta button' is not
a reason imho. Yes, it was taken from iTunes - and that might lead to
problems as well, since it's what they market and xtunes got a cease and
desist letter because their app was too similar.

> 
> > > If this is actually supposed to be one of the purposes of Rhythmbox,
> > > then I strongly suggest to make it visible from the main UI, otherwise
> > > it's just too difficult IMO to be even aware of this functionality. 
> > 
> > I see rb as a music player and burning cds as a bonus..
> 
> Hmm.  I view rb as what you could think of as a music environment - playing 
> music from various sources, rip it from CDs, put it on to CDs, and potentially 
> putting it on and pulling it off portable devices (eg iPod).  netRhythmbox does 
> a fine job of playing music now - rb should become so much more.

Sure, I agree. But it's primary focus should be playing music imho, the
rest are maintainance tasks - not everyday music playback things, and
thus should not be in the main player ui imho.

> 
> > > As for placing the volume button to the top right, I really like that
> > > but there is still the issue that the slider could be mistaken for a
> > > volume slider. Isn't it a bit weird to have a slider without icon
> > > besides an icon without a slider which do completely different things
> > > and are both sliders in fact? ;)
> > 
> > Maybe. Although I think it's fine now.. like.. the volume slider will
> > clearly pop down out of the volume button, vertically, making its
> > relation instantly clear imho. And the time slider has a time label
> > under it so.. well.. I dunno, I'm biased ofcourse ;)
> 
> I also like the volume button.  It saves space.  There are so many different 
> volumes - master, PCM, amplifier, speaker - that having it visible all the time 
> is not really necessary IMHO.

(those are system volumes and will never ever be in rb)

> 
> - James.